Re: lots of unecessary HM messages

From: Paul Haldane <>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:21:06 +0100 (GMT)
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On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Otis Gospodnetic wrote:

> I've noticed this weird behaviour when I use the latest HM.

I'm not sure I'd call it wierd :-> Hypermail is complaining because the messages in the archive don't have message-ids. See previous discussion on this list for why hypermail prefers to use the real msgids.

> When a message sent to a mailing list returns to sender (majordomo-owner
> eventually) the message also contains all the HM messages (example below).
> This never used to happen before (HM 2.0b3) until I switched to the latest
> HM.
> Is this a bug?

Nope - it's a feature (at least the detection of missing/duplicate msgids is).

> It's not preventing things from functioning properly, it's just that
> majordomo-owner's mailbox gets filled with multiple 200K messages in my
> case...

It would be trivial for hypermail not to let the user know when it was taking actions like this (replacing duplicate msgids, adding new msgids to messages with no msgid). I would make this optional as there may be those who do want to archive all messages (even apparent duplicates/invalid messages) but do want to be told when such a message appears.

> Is there anything I can do to prevent this from happening?

You've got the source - you can comment out the printf statements that produce the messages. Or you could run hypermail from within a script and use grep to discard the error messages you don't want to see.


> message 0: Message-ID missing, using 929376531.0000_at_hypermail.dummy instead.
> message 2: Message-ID missing, using 929376531.0001_at_hypermail.dummy instead.
> message 3: Message-ID missing, using 929376531.0002_at_hypermail.dummy instead.
... Received on Tue 15 Jun 1999 11:38:06 AM GMT

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