[hypermail] Re: license in archive/

From: Bernhard Reiter <bernhard_at_intevation.de_at_hypermail-project.org>
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 17:03:54 +0200
Message-ID: <20020805150354.GC6913_at_intevation.de>


please take my apologies if my emails sounded harsh. It was unintentional. I might have been a bit too brief. Let me explain:

My primary goals was to get the ffii archives working again after a harddisk crash which unfortunately lost some of the installation. Thus I would have had to customise msg2archive anyway. Doing this I've stumbled across the license problem and reported it briefly to bring it to attention. It looked like an oversight so I did not explain the licensing details because I think that hypermail developers like you will take care of it once the issue is raised.

It would be very nice if you changed the license of this code to be Free Software compatible. If you do not favour the GNU GPL there are many other options, like the GNU LGPL or X11 style licenses having the same effect.

I guess that many distributions and sites did package and use archive/ in mistake as they probably did not notice that the license actually forbits this.

I wrote the (partly) replacement to get the ffii archive working again it also allowed me to fix a couple of bugs and later integrate it with other python code. Note that the ffii is a non-profit organisation, we just prefer to defend our Freedom in supporting Free Software.

Send me personal email for questions or remarks, if you like.


On Mon, Aug 05, 2002 at 09:13:19AM -0500, Kent Landfield wrote:
> # On Sat, Aug 03, 2002 at 09:01:51PM +0200, Bernhard Reiter wrote:

> # > This license statement forbits commercial use and thus is a
> # > proprietory software license incompatible with the GNU GPL.
> #
> # > - Reimplement it as Free Software.
> #
> # I've implemented a similar functionality in python under GNU LGPL.
> # The result is attached.

> # BTW: All my little programs successfully run at the ffii.org
> # mailarchive now. ffii.org/archive/mails
> # e.g: http://www.ffii.org/archive/mails/groff/

> So let me get this straight... Instead of asking me nicely the status
> directly, you post a complaint to the list. Then you respond to your own
> message with a substitute for the piece you are complaining about. And
> the reason you are complaining is that you cannot make money directly
> off of the original ? Hypermail is distributed as a part of commercial
> packages. The vendors have distributed what this project has created.
> There is no problem there at all. If you decide to make a specific
> commercial version of hypermail then that's a different beast. Is that
> why you wish to get the license corrected ? Or is this a simple "let's
> be pure GPL" ? I'd like to understand what you are trying to do and why.
> You can email me directly if you wish. I'd prefer that myself. I would
> have likely changed it earlier if you had asked me directly. Your tactics
> have me curious...

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