Re: Time stamps

From: Ashley M. Kirchner <>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 21:34:52 -0700 (Mountain Standard Time)
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On Tue, 16 Mar 1999, Craig A Summerhill wrote:

> Your default display (as per the URL you gave above) is by thread, not
> by date. You can't necessarily expect the date displayed on the last
> message of the index to be the same as the last message when they are
> being displayed by thread, subject, or author... There are thirty
> messages in the archive, number 0029.html was the last one in but it
> is not the last one in the thread index.
> Maybe I'm dense... am I missing something?

        Ok, that's understandable. I was looking at the wrong file sections. But this has raised another question on my end though...

        Take the following message header:

>From owner-wwwcount Fri Feb 19 18:33:15 1999 <---- last msg stamp
Received: (from mjdomo_at_localhost)

        by (8.9.2/8.9.2-NOSPAM) id SAA09234
        for wwwcount-outgoing; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:33:15 -0700 (MST)
Received: from ( [])
        by (8.9.2/8.9.2-NOSPAM) with ESMTP id SAA09230
        for <>; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:33:09 -0700 (MST)
Received: from ( [])
        by (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA32749
        for <>; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:02:36 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <>
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:08:41 -0500                        <---- msg stamp
From: Muhammad A Muquit <> Organization: Fox Chase Cancer Center
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        One thing I noticed is that hypermail has a tendency to grab the top line to report the Last message date, while grabbing the Date line in the headers to timestamp each message.

        This particular header can be seen on the archive too. It's the very last message in the February archive ( If you sort that archive by date, you'll see the top time stamp being used, and when you load the last message up, the time stamp is different, it's the second one in the headers (as seen above).

        This is what originally triggered my curiosity, why the discrepancy. By looking at the headers, I now see which date is being used for what. My question now is, why?


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